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Gangrene from Pasturella, Pepto-Streptococcus or Ehrlichia?
Sent to Pet Experts June 25 11:24 PM

My 10 lb poodle was visciously attacked by a dog. He was in a boarding kennel at the time and his wounds were not noticed, nor were they treated for 3 days (until we picked him up from the kennel). By that time infection had taken over his body. We immediately took him to our Vet. He was treated, wounds cleaned and he was put on an antibiotic. The next morning his temp was 105 and he was catatonic. He was hospitalized. To make a very long story shorter, the incident happened May 5th. We picked him up May 8th, 2006 and took him to the Vet. The original wounds absessed, were lanced (some as many as 6 times). More absesses kept popping up all over his body (40 to 50 in total), these were lanced. Samples were sent to a lab for culture. He had Pasturella and Pepto-Streptococcus. For over a month, he was treated with many different antibiotics. He developed a sensitivity to Pennicillin injections, and they became absessed. His temp would soar to 105, or drop to 96. The absesses began healing, but his heart developed a murmur, his lymph glands continued to be swollen, his kidneys were compromised, his Red Blood count dropped to 19 while his White Blood count soared off the chart. Another Vet was called in for consultation and asked about any Ticks in the past. Only one, about 4 or 5 years ago. He was put on Doxycycline (for Ehrlichia). Within 2 hours his temp returned to normal and he was more alert. His absess wounds have all healed, leaving some leathery skin. My concern now is that there are places on his body where the skin is discolloring to a dark brown color and this seems to be spreading. My Vet is out of town until Wednesday. The discollored areas are where there had been absesses. Is is possible that there may be gangrene in these areas? Please help.

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June 26 6:01 PM (11 hours and 5 minutes and 30 seconds later)
         
Reply to Lori's Post: There is no odor and his temp has been well within the normal range since he started on Doxycycline. The skin looks normal in the areas where it is discoloring.

We have reported this kennel to the Colorado Dept. of Agriculture, the governing agency for dog/cat boarding kennels. As far as I know, if they could shut her down, they would. I have not heard, as yet, as to the outcome of their investigation.
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June 26 7:13 PM (1 hour and 12 minutes and 20 seconds later)
         
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I am going to refer your problem on to one of the veterinary experts here. You should be hearing from them in response to this issue soon. I am uncertain as to what this could be from your description.


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Lori McLaughlin
Your veterinarian should ALWAYS be consulted first and foremost when your pet's welfare is at stake.
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June 26 7:38 PM (25 minutes and 5 seconds later)
         
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I agree with Lori - what a terrible thing for your little dog to have to go through. I am so glad that he is doing much better now.

It is extremely unlikely that this is gangrene. Gangrene is caused by a bacteria that will only grow in the absence of oxygen and causes tissue to die quickly, so if gangrene was present your dog would be much sicker and the skin would be black and probably moist and draining. It is likely that what you are seeing is just hyperpigmentation, which is one of the response that occurs when skin has chronic irritation. Because of the extent of your dog's wounds, it is likely that this is just more of healing process.

Another possibility here would be that because your dog has been on quite a few different antibiotics, he could have developed a yeast infection of the skin. Yeast infections can occur when the normal bacterial organisms have been suppressed by the antibiotics. This is not serious and can easily be treated.

A third possibility is that your dog has a hormonal imbalance that is affecting the skin. The two most common ones are hypothyroidism (low thyroid function) and Cushing's disease (decreased adrenal gland function). Both of these can cause the changes you are describing, but these are also very treatable and nothing to get too worried about.

As long as your dog continues to eat and drink normally and all you are seeing is the color change, don't get too worried. Have him checked by your vet when they get back into town, but what you are describing is probably just more of the healing process.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions.


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June 26 9:05 PM (1 hour and 26 minutes and 43 seconds later)
         
Reply to Lori's Post: Thank you both for your reply. These discolorations are in areas where absesses had been. The worst discoloration is on his left hip where the most painful absess was. He is not experiencing any pain when I touch or rub the area.
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June 26 9:07 PM (2 minutes and 23 seconds later)
         
Reply to Dr. Sharon B.'s Post: Thank you for your reply. These discolorations are in areas where absesses had been. The worst discoloration is on his left hip where the most painful absess was. He is not experiencing any pain when I touch or rub the area.

Your observations of other possibilities are very interesting. I will print this and show my Vet when he gets back in town. This is a rural area and this clinic only has one Vet.
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June 26 9:11 PM (3 minutes and 39 seconds later)
         
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We are happy to help. Let us know if there is anything else we can do for you.
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June 26 9:14 PM (3 minutes and 28 seconds later)
         
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Good luck! I'm still shaking my head at what your poor little dog has been through!


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Lori McLaughlin
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June 26 9:24 PM (9 minutes and 41 seconds later)
         
Reply to Dr. Sharon B.'s Post: Dear Dr. Sharon B.

You have given me some peace of mind to survive until the Vet gets back. Thank you.

Carol
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June 26 9:28 PM (3 minutes and 30 seconds later)
         
Reply to Lori's Post: Dear Lori,

For living in such a rural area, we have been extremely blessed with such an excellent Vet and his highly experienced staff. We do consult with him first ... Unfortunately, these discolorations started after he left town. We've been through so much this past almost 2 months, that I panicked. My little dog has been sent home from the Vet Hospital to die, TWICE ... He's still with us.

Thank you for your assistance.

Carol
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