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Sent to Pet Experts July 19, 2006 12:21 a.m.

Please, Help me!   I am in need of some advice on my 23 yr old Fox Trotter Mare I have, Dollie girl( her name). I have owned her for 8 yrs. We have been thru a full yr of medical attention toghter, due to her breaking her leg & fracturing her knee joint in the back right leg. Dollie has been having some medical problems the last week . She is normally a real healthy mare for her age, But I have been having trouble keeping weight on her about twice a yr. About 10 days ago, I noticed a football size knot under her bellie, just beside the hair line that runs along the bottom side of a horses stomach. I also noticed fluid (not really cloudy, as well as blood coming from her teet on that side. I called our local vet and he assured me it had to be Masitis, although he isn't sure why she would have it, due to she is an old horse, and she has not been pastured with any other horses for almost 4 yr now, nor is she around any other horses, only cows we have in the other pasture.   Dollie has not been in her cycle for almost 7 yrs. She is a very quite horse.
She is running on our 60 acre farm, with plenty of fresh water to consume. I am having serious reservations about her actually having Mastits, for these reasons, 1- The only signs she has is the blood and fluid coming from her teets, and the sweeling under the middle of her belly.   The mammory gland was swelled all the way dwon to her flanks, Which by the way is also the side she broke her leg on, She is having no swelling of the teets, nor pain when you touch her. She did however seem to be in just general pain for couple days, which I administered bute with her antibiotics. SHe has been taking the anti-bio. for 10 days now. The knot has gone away, but she still has fluid coming out her teets. I noticed today however, that it looks like the line running down her belly looks like it might be going to swell some(simular to what a horse with Equine Infectious Anameia looks like), she is also slimmed down again on weight, which i am trying to deal with. I talking in the neiborhood of about 50 to 100 lb weight loss in couple weeks. Keep in mind that she is no longer a daily rider, I do ride her casual around the farm to keep her exercised. I am feeding her hand milled grain, about 6 to 8 lbs a day. She will gain back the weight for a short while than drop it off again for no reason. SHe has great pasture to graze, but she will not eat any kind of hay, at anytime of year.   She also has
some form of eye disease taking over the bottom halves of both eyes. My local vet said she prob cannot see anything there in both eyes. I did have a Coggins test run about 3 months ago, and she was negative. She has had all her shots.

   I live in arkansas and the mosquitos are thick here at certain times yr. Back in May 06, I did take her on a ride for local charity and we had to fight the mosquitos for about 10 miles, which averages out to about 5 hrs riding, it had rained on us. So I am really wondering that is it possible that my mare may have contracted West Nile, or possibly the equine infectious anameia? Or am I really just dealing with Mastitis? Our local vets are not to good about horses, so I read alot of med books on them, to keep myself informed. I have dealt with another mare several yrs ago that had mastits and she was totally different , as far as she showed all the signs of it, Dollie does not, nor has dollie ever had a colt. she was bred about 11 yrs ago, and never got pregnant.

I am sorry for such a long question, but am desperate for some kind of answer. I love this horse very much, I told her when I bought her 8 yrs ago, that I would care for her till she passed on ,and that is what I intend to do. But I really need help here on this, It is scaring me that I may loose her, due to the quality of vet service we have here. I have yet been able to get a vet out to see her about this. All the other vets we have are approx. 50 to 100miles away, Dollie is a retired horse, she could not withstand a trailer ride that far. I am the one that done most of the leg work on her, and she is now considered by a credited vet to be at least 95% sound. So I know this horse from top to bottom & inside out, something is wrong here, and I need some advice and where to go next to find the problem. I am going to carry a sample of the fluid to my vets office and see if they will analize it. If they wont come to me I will figure out a way to get the answers I need to help My Dollie Girl.
Please, help with a reply if you can. Or feel free to call me at 1-XXX-XXX-XXXX arkansas.
Thank You so much for taking the time to read my letter.

Denise Johnson

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July 19, 2006 1:34 a.m. (1 hour and 12 minutes later)
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Hi,

I'm sorry to hear that Dollie isn't doing well. You sound like a well-informed horse owner who loves her mare very much. First of all, the signs/symptoms you describe do not come close to West Nile or Eq Inf Anemia. With West Nile, those horses that become clinically ill exhibit signs of loss of appetite and depression, in addition to any combination of the following signs — fever, weakness or paralysis of hind limbs, muscle fasciculations or muzzle twitching, impaired vision, ataxia (incoordination), head pressing, aimless wandering, convulsions, inability to swallow, circling, hyperexcitability, or coma. Horses with Equine Infectious Anemia show fever, petechial hemorrhages (pinpoint hemmorhages on the mucous membranes, anemia, depression, weight loss and dependent edema (swelling on the lower portion of the body).

In general, when blood and fluid come from a teat, it means mastitis. The other possibility is a tumor of the mammary tissue. Since the antibiotics made a major difference in the swelling, I would guess that this is likely mastitis. Your description fits that disease. However, the antibiotic may not be the correct one since the issue is still present. You may wish to send a sample of the fluid to your vet for a culture, but this may not work since the horse is already on antibiotics. My main concern is that the antibiotic choice is not correct. A vet can also ultrasound the mammary area and check for a tumor.

As far as the weight loss issue, she is getting older and sometimes as they age, horses have a harder time keeping weight on. You may wish to add some supplementation to her diet.

I hope this is helpful. Please let me know what other information, if any, I can provide.



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Sent July 19, 2006 1:46 a.m. (12 minutes and 38 seconds later)

Thank You for taking the time to read about my mare. I do understand what you have told me. The feed I give her has all the supplements in it that my vet has told me to give her. She is an older horse and like I said we have gone thru a broke leg toghter. The swelling she had was directly under her belly. What throws me off is, she has no swelling or tenderness on or around her teets. And she did refuse part of her feed for 2 days. I have a trick for her that I had to do when I was trying to get her meds down her during the leg incedent, and have applied that trick on her for the last 10 days. I mix her meds with water and small amount of jello, then mix it with her feed. I believe if it wasn't for that, then she wouldnt be eating much these last few days. I wish I could email you a pic of the swelling a couple days ago, then it would be easier to see exactly what I have been seeing.
Thank You for your answer!
Denise Johnson
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July 19, 2006 2:05 a.m. (18 minutes and 31 seconds later)

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