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Sent to Pet Experts May 21 2006 at 4:14 PM
   

I have two fire bellied toads that have been happy and healthly here for 3yrs. They have always exhibited signs of mating. The same light colored frog is always on the top of the other darker frog and is also more aggressive when feeding. The dark frog is now sick or something. It's stomach is blown up like a balloon and it's breathing is labored at times. This has been going on for 3 days. The frog seemed lethargic the first day that I noticed a change in it's normal activity and on the second day was visibly bloated and today is ballooned out and it's coloring on the sides is so stretched that it's grey looking in middle where the two bright colors used to meet in a line. I haved called several pet stores and veterinarians in our area but have not been able to speak with anyone who is knowledgable. I can take the frog to a vet in Marietta tomorrow for 85.00 who is willing to take me who's answering service told me they were trained but not specialized in exotics. I am worried that the frog is in pain or dying and will not make it to an experienced vet but also wonder if she may be full of eggs? Don't know? Pease help.

 

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Age: 4; Female; Breed: Fire bellied toads

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Nothing other than calling pet stores and local vets who are evidently unknowledgable, but it is Sunday and I am only getting answering services.
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May 21 2006 at 7:30 PM (3 hours and 15 minutes and 15 seconds later)
         
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Hi Customer (name blocked for privacy),

I'm not going to go thru the usual questions, such as are you pre-treating your water because if they've been happy for three years, obviously you're doing something right. What kind of substrate are you using? When they bloat it can be either from an impaction or a bacterial infection/Dropsy.

If "she" ate some of the substrate or ate something too big (what are you feeding?) it could be an impaction.

Dropsy can be caused by chlorine in the water, poor diet or bacteria...no one knows the exact cause. Dropsy can be treated (with baytril injections), but it's touch and go whether they will make it through that, it's usually fatal even with the treatment. (On the other hand, my friends vet recommended euthanizing hers after 10 baytril treatments her toad was still bloated, but they didn't give up and a week and a half later he was fine. We were surprised, but happy.)

You can see a pic here with a frog who has dropsy for comparison.

http://allaboutfrogs.org/info/doctor/bloat1.jpg

In the meantime, you can try soaking her in lukewarm water in case of constipation or a blockage, it may help. You may also want to consider separating her from the other.

To answer your other question, fbt do not get pregnant or "gravid" in the typical way, they do carry unfertilized eggs inside them but it wouldn't show in this way. The fertilizing happens outside the body when they lay the eggs.

I hope this helped some, please let me know if you have any further questions, if costs nothing to click reply. If this has helped, please remember to click the green accept button.

Warmly,

Lisa



Edited by mschase2u on May 21 2006 at 7:30 PM



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May 22 2006 at 4:54 PM (21 hours and 24 minutes and 36 seconds later)
         
Reply to Lisa's Post: Hello,
I posted this information for my friend Terri, she has been at the hospital all day with her mom who is having surgery so I will have to ask her what she wants to do when I give her the information. I will try and contact her tonight and will post her reply when I talk with her. The information sounds like the most effective and informative option per other advise that we have been given which is basically that the toad will die and there is nothing that can be done but take it to a vet in which none that she has contacted gave as much information as you. Thank you and I will be back in touch. Benefield's Auto Sales. 770-969-9005
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May 23 2006 at 7:30 AM (13 hours and 54 minutes and 28 seconds later)
         
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