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I have a 1 1/2 year cinnamon cockatiel who up until recenly was doing great. About 2 weeks ago, I started mixing in some Harrison's high potency pellets in the hope that I could convert both birds. (I have 2 cockatoo's who have been doing GREAT on it for 5-6 years). A couple of days ago, I noticed black (and I mean BLACK) stools - the white part was still very white and all was still soft (not watery -). She (I think she is a she -) was also lethargic and slightly puffy - sitting on the bottom of the cage and after trying to get her to eat some hand feeding formula she would also try to eat either millet or the Kaytee. About 20 minutes later she would vomit a small amount. (NO MORE MILLETT!). She was currently sharing a cage with our older (7-8-year-old ) cockatiel whom I think is a male and can be very aggressive.
Anyway, called the vet and they said 'labwork' which would take about 1 1/2 - 2 weeks to get results and even then they might not know what is wrong. My thought was that I'm not even sure that she would last 2 weeks (who knows how long she's been sick they hide it so well -) and that the stress of the visit and blood draw alone might kill her. I set up an "infirmary cage" - quiet, warm (85-90 degrees) with her regular food which is Kaytee Rainbow).
Last night, I noticed her stools look lighter in color and not black, but more light emerald green. I went to work for about 4 1/2 hours today and left some pedialyte, kaytee food and water. (I thought rest would be good as I was watching her and probably driving her crazy). When I came home today, stools slightly lighter in color, she was sitting on the perch and very anxious to come out and play with 'mommy'. I fed her a tiny bit of hand feeding formula mixed with pedialyte (which she loved) and she ate a few bites of her Kaytee. I took it out after a few minutes because I didn't want her overdoing it and vomiting again. (I'm a nurse by profession and I know humans need to take it easy after bowel upset -)
I'm hoping she is starting to get better (she is calling to me with occasional chirps as I write this -).   But I'm wondering what this is - viral? Did she get eat something bad when I wasn't looking - ? I'm not sure. I don't know a whole lot about this other than she must have really been sick to start exhibiting symptoms.
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May 17 9:15 PM (53 minutes and 38 seconds later)
         
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I think everything you said sounds "right on" and you are doing all the right things for her right now. My problem in this would be with your vet. I'm going to stick my neck out and guess that you are not dealing with a Certified Avian Vet or at least one who has a ton of avian experience. All the avian vets that I have ever dealt with do the majority of their own lab work, right there, on premises. Things like testing a stool sample or a throat swab, they should not have to send off to a lab. They, of all people, know birds cannot wait around like that for results. Good grief, AvianBioTech can get most lab results back to you sooner than that and that's a mail in situation. They can send you a result by email and follow up with the paper work. Since I'm not a vet and even if I was, cannot see and test your bird, I'm going to have to give you my best guess, based on symptoms. I feel like maybe you are dealing with one of the megabacterias but other possibilities, including something viral, cannot be ruled out. If you cannot locate a vet who is very knowledgeable with avians, there is one alternative. You can go online at avianbiotech.com. You can order test kits for many situations. In yours, I suggest one for a fecal smear. It costs nothing to order the kits. You only pay when you return your sample, based on what you want them to test for. If you do that, you want a fresh sample of course. My vets have always said "fresh from the bird" is best. Not a sample we carry in, not one dropped in the carrier on the way to the office. If you get a positive gram stain result, then antibiotics are likely to be in order. The only ones I've had experience with are Metronidazole, Fluconazole, and Nystatin. All needed a flavoring agent so I was not "torturing" the bird, causing all kinds of damage to our bond, not to mention, making a sick bird feel even worse because of the fight to get it down. You may still need to get with a vet at some point because even if you can get your hands on any of them, you may need guidance as to doseage, based on weight, etc. If you need to use antibiotics, you are probably already aware of the need for a probiotic as well. Obviously you are a very well informed bird owner and I'm not sure just how much extra help I can be beyond what you already know and what I've said here. The only causes I can think of for what may be going on is possibly some bacteria got started in some wet food or her water dish. For future reference, a bit of Apple Cider vinegar in the drinking water from time to time can help her keep "in balance". Only a few drops is sufficient. Another good product for keeping things in good order is a product called GSE. That is grapefruit seed extract. It's a pricey little bottle to buy but it's highly concentrated. For my flock, who are all on bottled water, I add about a teaspoon to a gallon of water and I do it about once a month. I hope that some of this is helpful to you but if you have any further questions, I'll do my best. Patricia


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