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I have a 2 year old Australian Shepard. Back a couple ...


Sent to Pet Experts May 17, 2006 7:46 p.m.

I have a 2 year old Australian Shepard. Back a couple months ago she developed a cough and wheeze. If she tried to bark she would start to cough and gag. Eventually she would cough up white foamy stuff. We took her to the vet and they thought she had kennel cough. She developed a rattle in her chest and when it didn't get better we took her back for chest x-ray. she had pneumonia. They started her on antibiotics which didn't work. they then thought they needed to do a tracheal wash in order to obtain a specimen in order to know what antibiotic to use. When they did, the test came back negative and they said it was probably because of the antibiotic she was on. (not sure why we did it if they knew that was a possibility). Well, they prescribed a stronger antibiotic and antinflammatory. She got better. After seeming better for a couple weeks, the cough started again. The vet started her on the meds again and it seemed to clear up. Now that she's at the end of her meds for the second time, she has coughed on a couple occasions and seems sluggish and has a warm nose. Just for your information, guess I don't think it's related. She was fixed several months ago and since then has seemed to balloon in size and weight. When she was a pup the vet said she would probably get to be 40-45 lbs. When we had her at the vet last, she was over 70 lbs. She seems starving all the time when on those meds. when off she seems more normal. We have really cut her back on scraps etc. but she's still a BIG girl. Any input would be appreciated.

Ron

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May 17, 2006 8:28 p.m. (42 minutes and 28 seconds later)
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If you could answer a couple of questions for me, I will be able to answer your questions better.

Can you tell me what antibiotics she has been on and for how long? What was the anti-inflammatory she was on? Have any cough suppressants been used?

When you say that she seems starving all the time when she is on those meds, which meds are you speaking about?

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Sent May 18, 2006 9:34 p.m. (1 day and 1 hour later)

The antibiotic is doxyclycline. The anti-inflammatory was Penaril-P tablets. She hasn't been on cough suppressants. Her appetite seems to be excessive while on the antibiotic.
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May 18, 2006 10:06 p.m. (32 minutes and 11 seconds later)
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I am going to assume that the diagnosis is correct, but without culture results we cannot be certain. I know you said that the culture did not grow anything (that happens sometimes) but did they mention any types of cells that were detected with the tracheal wash? If there is an allergic or parasite component to this, there could be have been increase in a type of cells called eosinophils in the tracheal wash. A complete blood count may also show an increase in the eosinophils in the blood. Also, a repeat x-ray may be considered to see if anything is showing up once the pneumonia has cleared. Again, I will assume that the diagnosis is kennel cough though. If your vet has any doubt, they may consider having the x-rays (both previous ones with the pneumonia and perhaps more current ones) reviewed by a radiologist to make sure they are not missing anything.

Doxycycline is a good antibiotic choice for kennel cough, but since it is not eliminating the infection in this dog, I would consider doing a 5 day course of Zithromax. This is an antibiotic that has been very effective against kennel cough. I have had this drug work when doxycycline did not.

The Temaril-P contains an anti-inflammatory ( a type of steroid) which also functions as a cough suppressant. It is likely that this is the medication that has caused the increase in appetite as that is a common side effect of any of the steroids. I would not expect this side effect with the doxycycline.

If the Zithromax is unsuccessful, then the next thing to consider would be nebulization therapy. One of the reasons we have trouble clearing these infections is because the infection occurs within the lining of the respiratory tract, and it is difficult for the drugs to reach this surface. With nebulization, an antibiotic is dissolved in water and then it is vaporized and breathed in so the antibiotic is delivered via the airway instead of the blood stream. Because of this, it is often effective when oral medication is not.

I hope this information helps you. If you have additional questions, please let me know.

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