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I have a veiled chameleon who in the last few days has ...


Sent to Pet Experts February 25, 2006 5:37 p.m.

I have a veiled chameleon who in the last few days has become increasingly lethargic. His tongu and eyes are swollen. He eats gut loaded crickets, dusted withHerpcare cricket dust every other day. He is in a southeast facing window and has a UVB light in his cage. I had him to the vet yesterday who gave me a nutritional supplement to feed him byt dropper, antibiotics for him enterally and eye drops. I just do not feel confident we know what is wrong?
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Age: 1; Female; Breed: Veiked Chameleon

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February 25, 2006 6:37 p.m. (59 minutes and 40 seconds later)

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Sent February 26, 2006 2:47 p.m. (20 hours and 9 minutes later)

My chameleon is a captive born. It is a male however. He has a drip chamber that drips onto pptted romaine lettuce. We also mist the plant twice a day. It's odd but he is mostly dark green although one end of the cage is 95 and the other about 70. Whe I hold him to give him his antibiotic and a food supplement the vet gave me he turns a brilliant green. He has learned in just a few days to drink from the syringe but has not eaten any crickets I have offered only the nutrition supplement.
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Sent February 26, 2006 2:47 p.m. (46 seconds later)

My chameleon is a captive born. It is a male however. He has a drip chamber that drips onto pptted romaine lettuce. We also mist the plant twice a day. It's odd but he is mostly dark green although one end of the cage is 95 and the other about 70. Whe I hold him to give him his antibiotic and a food supplement the vet gave me he turns a brilliant green. He has learned in just a few days to drink from the syringe but has not eaten any crickets I have offered only the nutrition supplement.
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February 26, 2006 4:54 p.m. (2 hours and 6 minutes later)

What is the vitamin A content of the Herpcare cricket dust and what are you gut loading your crickets with?

How long have the swelling of the eyes and tongue been present?

Does it eat anything other than crickets? Vegetable matter? Meal worms?

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Sent February 26, 2006 5:28 p.m. (34 minutes and 31 seconds later)

The chameleon eats mostly crickets with an occassional mealworms. The crickets are gut loaded with crushed cat food and commercial cricket feed. I also put collard greens in the cage with the crickets.They are dusted with Herpcare cricket dust before feeding.I don't feed the chameleon veggies but there is a potted romaine lettuce plant in the cage that the drip chamber drips onto.

His eye swelling started Thursday evening and comes and goes. I noticed him holding his tongue out Friday afternoon. The vet told me it was swollen. It does not look discolored or have any resideu on it but he does not flick it out to catch crickets the last two days.
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February 26, 2006 5:44 p.m. (15 minutes and 47 seconds later)

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February 27, 2006 9:03 a.m. (14 hours and 16 minutes later)
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Dear Customer (name blocked for privacy),

I would agree that your chameleon may be slightly dehydrated, but the signs you are describing are classic for chameleons showing early stages of metabolic bone disease. I also agree that getting additional fluids into the animal is important, and when your veterinarian administers the other medications and supplements I mentioned previously, he/she will most likely administer fluids via the subcutaneous, intravenous or intraperitoneal route, as these ways offer a much better rate of absorption than soaking or oral intake. The idea of soaking is good, once the initial therapy is taken care of, but if you try to treat the problems he's having at home, you will almost surely lose the battle. Again, the signs you've described are classic. I've seen this in patients and I've owned one myself (a rescue animal).

I also agree with some seasonal variation, but often that seasonal variation of appetite and activity is not too pronounced in captivity. If it were just seasonal anorexia, you should not see the swollen eyes, tongue and lethargy.

One more note. I'd make sure that you have a suitable limb/perch or hiding spot on the bottom of the cage/enclosure. As this process progresses, they are much less coordinated and tend not to be able to climb as well. He'll need a place on the bottom that feels safe.

I'll be happy to assist you if you would like further information.

Best of luck with him. There is a lot of good information being offered here, but none will be of use if you don't combat this problem quickly.

Thank you.

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Sent February 27, 2006 5:20 p.m. (8 hours and 17 minutes later)

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Sent February 27, 2006 5:25 p.m. (5 minutes and 17 seconds later)

I have been re-hydrating him with Fluker Repta-Aid and water 5 times ddaily. He is much more feisty today than he was last week but still not the appropriate color. The vet I went to did not take blood or do xrays as I have seen on line.

I do not understand how this happened though. He is on a window , has a UVB light, gets gutloaded and dusted crickets as well as water that had vitamin drops.

I live in Chesapeake, VA and have had a very hard time finding an exotic vet. I appreciate all the help and any recommendation for a local vet would be appreciated as well. I am a pediatric critical care doctor and am vested in this animal surviving even if his ignorant owner has been doing it incorrectly so far I am educable.
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February 27, 2006 5:54 p.m. (28 minutes and 3 seconds later)

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