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Sent to Pet Experts November 07, 2005 3:30 p.m.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am hoping you can give me a second opinion. My one year old bully, Bentley has an undescended testicle. I am told that if surgery, whereby the undescended testicle is removed, is not performed, Bentley's chances of developing testicular cancer is greatly enhanced.

I, however, am very leery about putting Bentley on the operating table due to the sensitivity of Bulldogs to surgery. My family has already endured the loss of our first bulldog in his surgery to clip his elongated palate and we still mourn his death.

I would like to, know if, in your opinion:

1.   surgery to remove the undescended testicle is essential to the welfare of Bentley

2. Is there a substantial, heightened risk that Bentley will develop cancer if the undescended testicle is not removed

3. Is there any other effects to Bentley if the undescended testicle is not removed

4. Is surgery to remove the undescended testicle very risky to bulldogs

5. Is there an alternative to surgery that is less risky in correcting the undescended testicle (money is no object) - I have read about the possibility of using steroids such as HCG to correct undescended testicle.

I am very concerned about Bentley and would really appreciate any assistance you can provide. Thank you in advance!

Best regards,

James Soncuya


James Soncuya
Associate
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP
1020 Marsh Road
Menlo Park, CA 94025
tel 650.614.7433
fax 650.614.7401

www.orrick.com


Optional Information: Age: 1; Male; Breed: English Bulldog
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November 07, 2005 3:45 p.m. (14 minutes and 51 seconds later)
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Yes there is an increased risk of cancer in the undescended testicle. You also risk a torsion of the testicle which can be a painful problem.
Substantial is a matter of opinion. You have to weigh risks of doing surgery on a healthy pup or waiting until an older dog has a problem (if it does) and having to do urgent emergency surgery.
In evaluating the difficulty of the surgery ask the vet if the undescended testicle can be palpated near the inguinal ring. If its there then the surgery will be quick and easy as if it were a regular neuter.
You can opt to have an ultrasound to try to locate the missing testicle thus pinpointing it for rapid surgical removal instead of the vet fishing around for it mechanically.
If your pup has airway issues such as stenoric nares or soft palate elongation or collapsing trachea that might push your decision away from neutering unless you must.
You can opt to wait until the dog hits puberty (ie around 6 months) to see if the testicle drops.
My personal preference is to get pups with this sort of problem neutered before I place them in a pet home as that makes the risks all mine and I know the quality of the vet who does the work.
But as that wasn't done you need to evaluate your vet's surgical skills, the difficulty of the operation,whether you want to find a vet well experienced in working on the breed to do the job etc.
I do think in general neutered pets outlive intact ones so that may figure into your decision too.
Hope this helps you!

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Sent November 07, 2005 3:49 p.m. (3 minutes and 49 seconds later)

I am particularly interested in alternatives. I am also looking to obtain an opinion from a DVM.
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November 07, 2005 4:00 p.m. (11 minutes and 7 seconds later)
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The two alternatives are do the surgery or don't.
My feeling is the removal of the missing testicle is no worse than a spay operation on a female. I've had many pups done as I don't place pets intact into pet homes. I raise a short nosed breed with breathing issue potentials so I understand your fears.
http://www.inkabijou.co.uk/crypto.htm
http://animalpetdoctor.homestead.com/reproduction2.html#anchor_14
http://www.bcrescue.org/cryptorchid.html
you may find this discussions on studies done interesting too
http://www.ebvet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=412&sid=634f4a800e30cb0e684742b7932f24fb
It has a lot of journal citations should you want to follow up on them.
And the opinion of a Canadian vet on the topic
http://www.animalhealthcare.ca/contents/content.asp?id=303&cat=dogs




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Sent November 07, 2005 4:16 p.m. (16 minutes and 6 seconds later)

I am looking for the opinion from a DVM and am interested in input regarding alternatives to surgery (ie - use of HGC or other medication).

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November 07, 2005 4:38 p.m. (22 minutes and 35 seconds later)
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I have been ignoring your question about the hormone shot as those are so darn risky.
None of the responsible breeders I know would risk using one on a dog they cared about.
Usually the cause of an undescended testicle is a short cord - its an inherited issue and nothing is going to make the cord grow.
If you want a hormonal surge to see if that will correct the problem - wait for puberty - much safer than hormone shots.
If the testicle is close enough to the inguinal ring to make the vet believe a hormone shot might help then you could opt to try it.
http://mens-health.health-cares.net/cryptorchidism.php
Its not useful in a high retention issue.
If you only want an answer from a veterinarian I suggest closing this question and opening a new one and re-asking your question with that stated up front otherwise people who know a lot without having a veterinary degree will continue to answer your inquiries.
Sorry if you didn't find my info useful!


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Sent November 07, 2005 4:41 p.m. (2 minutes and 43 seconds later)

Sorry - I was under the assumption that only DVM's answered the questions on here. I will re-post.
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November 07, 2005 4:42 p.m. (1 minute and 10 seconds later)

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