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max 4mo pup, huge white worms in stool


Sent to Pet Experts August 19, 2005 9:45 p.m.

max 4mo pup, huge white worms in stool...we adopted 2 mix pups from the humane society. we were told the pups had been wormed and were healthy. they have both been to the vet and one treated with some wormer the vet gave last week. ( I believe that the other pup also has worms in that she is dragging her butt around and also has diarrehia). a few days ago max started pooping out huge white worms that were alive and wiggling. i am concerened because we have other dogs besides these two who are all healthy. should i treat the ground or what? should the dogs be seperated? should i have them all tested again? HELP!!!!! The other dogs we have are a 7 mo golden retriver, a 8 week mini pincher, a 3 yr doberman (and the two mixed adopted pups.) i am so concerned! thanks for the advice! leeah
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August 19, 2005 10:56 p.m. (1 hour and 11 minutes later)
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You need to take a stool sample from each of the pets to your vet's office to have a float done to rule out parasites in each pet. Just walk them on a leash and collect a sample as they leave it. Then label each bag and see the vet with it.

The problem with wormers is that they work for some worms at all. Your vet will tell you which worms are present and can give you an appropriate medication.

Let me know if you still have questions.

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Sent August 19, 2005 11:13 p.m. (16 minutes and 45 seconds later)

i did take the 3 dogs to the vet last week. (the mini pin and the dobi are new and have had minimum exposure) i took all three samples in labled just as you sugested. in fact i prelabled the bags and watched where each made their bowl movement to be sure. my golden and the other pup were negative. (but like i said, the other pup has the runny stool and the butt rubbing on the ground.) max, the dog i am concerned about tested positive and was given a yellow liquid dewormer there in the office. before two days or so ago, he never had visible worms, just the huge belly and the runny stool with blood in it. is it a good sighn that he is expelling the worms or bad that they are so big and alive? i am so concerned about him and the other dogs. how can i fix the yard? will it stay in the ground... i am sooo upset..i dont want to loose this lil guy we only had them about a month and a half but already we are all attatched...
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August 19, 2005 11:16 p.m. (2 minutes and 51 seconds later)
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The food things it that you will not see adult worms in the stool (they live high up in the intestines) unless they are dead or dying. So, giving the wormer is making them visible as the body sheds them.

You should not have to worry about the yard or contagious worms unless the pet was positive for roundworms.

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Sent August 19, 2005 11:22 p.m. (6 minutes and 26 seconds later)

i believe roundworms was the word he used. he also has spots of hairloss that are not going away. when we adopted them the foster mom from the humaine society said that she had to take him to the vet for this at about 8 weeks and was treated. so this is the 2 time for him to have the worms? i understand what you are saying about him shedding the worms out of his intestines, but all i have been doing is spraying the whole yard down with water to was away the stool so it doesnt stink. that is why i am concerned that if any of the dogs sniffs his stool, they may get them? am i crazy or just not understanding?
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August 19, 2005 11:25 p.m. (2 minutes and 29 seconds later)
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No. You just don't understand the life cycle of the parasite.

Take a look at this site for information:

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=476&S=1&SourceID=42

Sometimes it takes a second and third worming to conquer the roundworm problem.

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Sent August 19, 2005 11:34 p.m. (9 minutes and 19 seconds later)

ok i am sorry to keep bothering you. i will check out that web site but can you clairfy just a few more things to make sure ....

* should i still take the 3 stool samples in or just his or just wait?

*what about the other pup adopted from the same place at the same time? is the but rubbing behavioral or worms just werent detected or have they devloped since?

*should these 3 who have all been together for a month and a half be seperated from the new dogs or from each other?

* is the "float" that you sugested the same as the fecal culture or is this something additional that i should ask be done?

*are my dogs contagious?

sorry for bugging you to death i am just a very concerned doggy mom!
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August 19, 2005 11:38 p.m. (3 minutes and 28 seconds later)
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If it's roundworms, you need to take a stool sample for all three pets. If you want, you can start with just the one and CONFIRM roundworms and go from there.

Dragging their bottom on the ground is not a symptom of worms. You are thinking of pinworms in people which are itchy. Dog worms are not. The dragging of the bottom is probably because an overly full anal gland. Your vet can express this gland for you and solve the problem.

Yes. A float is a fecal exam.

Roundworms ARE "contagious" if one pet eats the soil where another pet (with roundworms) has pooped and shed eggs.

Does this help more?

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Sent August 19, 2005 11:43 p.m. (5 minutes and 37 seconds later)

ok i think i am feeling better about this. i will take another sample of his back to the vet on monday to confirm and follow up action. the other pup to get expressed. and i dont really have to worry about any of the pups catching this from him unless they start eating the dirt in the yard. is this correct? sorry to be so neurotic, lol. we just love them alot and have alot invested in all of them. i will keep your site on my favorites to visit again.. thank you so much!!!
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Sent August 19, 2005 11:47 p.m. (3 minutes and 56 seconds later)

thank you so much.. i left positive feedback for you!
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August 20, 2005 12:08 a.m. (21 minutes and 14 seconds later)

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