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Equine swelling between pastern and knee area


Sent to Pet Experts June 22, 2006 5:07 p.m.

We have a horse about 6 years of age. He has always been well-cared for and mostly in a stall. He came to live with us last fall. He has swelling both front and back legs. He has never been riden hard. We had his blood tested and it showed he was low in iron. He is fed a sweet feed with minerals and grass hay. He has never foundered. We hose his legs with cold water after any work. We work him with professional horseman's choice splint and pastern boots to work. We have tried leg wraps during the day. The problem seems to be gradually getting better. He lays don't a great deal. His shoeing has been changed and then put back to where it started. Have any ideas? C

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Age: 6; Female; Breed: Horse Morgan

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June 22, 2006 6:12 p.m. (1 hour and 4 minutes later)
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Hi! It's sounds like your horse has Stocking Up. This is common in horses that have spent a great deal of time in the stall, lack of exercise and poor grain or lack of quality hay. Sometimes people will also over grain to compensate for no hay. This is just as bad. You are doing all the right things because the general treatment for this is lightly exercise every day, cold water cool downs and leg wraps. Again, be careful with them. Never on for more than 12 hours. If the horse is low in iron then he could have edema and this will add to the problem as well. This takes a long time to fix. And you never mentioned if he was lame, so I will not consider that a factor. Most important, he has some pain or discomfort or he would not lay down as much. He could have "wind puffs" and that is a collection of fluid in the synovial pouches around the flexor tendons. Again, since I am not there, you are my eyes. I can bet it is both and probably would be right on. The splints are a must, the boots are critical and the cold water and wraps are a must. Working him too hard will be self defeating or carrying a lot of weight with a stock saddle and some one not on point with weight. That is just too much. The key word here is set a routine, keep to it and don't work him hard. He may get stiff sore and achy and he will not tell you. Up his supplements to increase with Vit C, E, B's, and Horse Chestnut herbs to strengthen the veins in his legs. Not all my animals are expensive, but they are all priceless, so I spare no expense. If you have any other questions, please ask.

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Marie  -- horse owner/trainer/show jump -- 100% Positive Feedback on 193 Pet Accepts
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Sent June 22, 2006 9:46 p.m. (3 hours and 34 minutes later)

Sorry to say this is not the classic stocking up. Both my husband and self have significant experience with training and showing english pleasure show horses. Our vet has not been able to diagnose the problem, my husband has been consulted many times by vets to assess leg problems because he has been a farrier for over 25 years and usually can pinpoint the problem. We have a chiropractic vet also and it isn't something he can treat. It is a chronic inflammation that does not respond to the same treatments as stocking up. It looks similar but is more acute. We increased supplements vitamins and minieral yes, he is sore. Wind puffs also behave differently and are not as acute. They tend to be in one flexor tendon area as you stated. They generally do not cause problems nor does stocking up. If he is worked other than very lightly or even let out to run his legs fill up and it feels hard in the back legs.
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June 22, 2006 10:19 p.m. (32 minutes and 21 seconds later)
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Okay. Then since you have so much experience, then I ask you why did you bother? You give me little information and then tell me I'm wrong.
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if you had given me that information, I would not have wasted my time or yours. That fact that he fills up after after he runs or is worked is something different. I grew up on a thoroughbred farm, and I can tell you five things that can cause this. But since your husband is a farrier and you are an expert you don't need my help. I've shown professionally for 25 years and I am on call for the Equestrian Olympic team here 6 miles from my house in NJ. I always start with the basics,(most obvious) and work my way up.I was taught from the best to do a process of elimination. Sorry I could not help you.
Marie  -- horse owner/trainer/show jump -- 100% Positive Feedback on 193 Pet Accepts
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Reply to Marie
Sent June 23, 2006 7:16 a.m. (8 hours and 57 minutes later)

You seem to be offended, that was not the intention. I thought on a whim perhaps there would be a solution to the problem. I bothered because I sincerely am trying to help the horse and am concerned. Please don't try to read anymore into this than what it is. I thought with the information of "what has been tried" that you would get the idea we had been thorough.
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